1.Would you have chosen to have been born?...

...and 2. is it immoral for people esp in starving countries eg Ethiopia, to bring in new lives, even that it is inevitable that the new lives will come into this world and suffer?

what are personnal reasons?

personal reasons such as: they are cute...everyones having babies, why dont i try it...etc

...and 2. is it immoral for people esp in starving countries eg Ethiopia, to bring in new lives, even that it is inevitable that the new lives will come into this world and suffer?

personal reasons such as: they are cute...everyones having babies, why dont i try it...etc

Love me or hate me for saying this, but I do feel that bringing a child into hardship is immoral. Cruel too actually. Just my personal opinion.

ah so the simple desire of the mother for a baby without thinking about the wider implications of bringing it up like how to pay for it? the standard of living? ect. ?

sure its immoral on the part of humanity that people are in that position

Our old friends the ancient Gnostics said that we were "thrown" into the world, a theme that, as we all know, Heidegger elaborated upon.

The question is completely meaningless - but the question is interesting in that it shows the capacity of the human imagination to transcend the present and to peer into the very heavens.

How do you mean? Is it the fault of those who have the child, or the fault of the better off people for not supporting? Or is it more a crime against humanity to bring a child into hardship like starvation?
Sorry, you just threw me with that one mate.

Our old friends the ancient Gnostics said that we were "thrown" into the world, a theme that, as we all know, Heidegger elaborated upon.

The question is completely meaningless - but the question is interesting in that it shows the capacity of the human imagination to transcend the present and to peer into the very heavens.

How do you mean? Is it the fault of those who have the child, or the fault of the better off people for not supporting? Or is it more a crime against humanity to bring a child into hardship like starvation?
Sorry, you just threw me with that one mate.

It's a non-sensical question. It's akin to asking "would you choose being born to a pink bunny rabbit?" But this type of questioning does reflect the transcendence of the human imagination, whether it be to heights of Mount Olympus, or to the delusions of Hades.

ideally everyone should be in a postion to bring up a child in relative comfort, the fact that people are poor in 3rd world countries is not normally the fault of the individual and hence they shouldnt be blamed if they cannot bring up the child well enought

Oh, I didn't see that "second" question - I assumed that the vote would be on the thread title, and not on a different topic. But the second question - "Is it right to bring new lives into this world for personal reasons?" - is, of course, bonkers. The assumptions that underpin this question, and the paradigm that gave birth to it, are quite crazy. Such a type of questioning reflects a mental state in chaos and confusion. Thinking in those terms is exactly like asking “Should an individual be allowed to interpret the Bible for himself?".