Why are young men so different than before?
Why are young men so different than before?
Kingdragon8
If you analyse historic 19th and 20th century battles.For example, Waterloo and the Battle of the Somme.You had soldiers who were majority 17-19 charge inface of certain death, but they would still carry on.However if you were to put modern Western 17-19year olds in such a position desertion would be rampant . Is this due to the idea that “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times"
Kingdragon8If you analyse historic 19th and 20th century battles.For example, Waterloo and the Battle of the Somme.You had soldiers who were majority 17-19 charge inface of certain death, but they would still carry on.However if you were to put modern Western 17-19year olds in such a position desertion would be rampant . Is this due to the idea that “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times"
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Religion and ties to one's own nationality are less, for good or bad, since then.
Who would the young people be fighting for? For some lifelong unemployed 60 year olds with hatchet faces who scour Poundland and B and M? Fighting on behalf of some 18 year old ultrawoke student in an ivory tower who enjoyed a gap yah in Kenya?
For a billionaire prime minister who looks like he'd regard a paper cut as a war wound?
Who would the young people be fighting for? For some lifelong unemployed 60 year olds with hatchet faces who scour Poundland and B and M? Fighting on behalf of some 18 year old ultrawoke student in an ivory tower who enjoyed a gap yah in Kenya?
For a billionaire prime minister who looks like he'd regard a paper cut as a war wound?
Original post by Kingdragon
Why are young men so different than before?
Kingdragon8
If you analyse historic 19th and 20th century battles.For example, Waterloo and the Battle of the Somme.You had soldiers who were majority 17-19 charge inface of certain death, but they would still carry on.However if you were to put modern Western 17-19year olds in such a position desertion would be rampant . Is this due to the idea that “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times"
Kingdragon8If you analyse historic 19th and 20th century battles.For example, Waterloo and the Battle of the Somme.You had soldiers who were majority 17-19 charge inface of certain death, but they would still carry on.However if you were to put modern Western 17-19year olds in such a position desertion would be rampant . Is this due to the idea that “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times"
1) These people were pulled from the dregs of society who were promised an early sucky death or a likely painful death but with the upside of maybe making something of yourself with 2 hots and a cot. Hardly a good choice
2) Have you never heard of press ganging or convict forces?
3) Have you also never heard of what happens when convicted of cowardice in the face of the enemy?
To say these kids willingly charged into bayonets is utterly mistaken. Not to mention half of them were doubtless drunk or high as a kite before hand.
Simply put, what kind of moron would want to kill themselves for the vain glory of some old man with no skin in the game? Especially in todays world, what 17 year old would want to die in Russia, for example, for some nebulous concept of freedom (ha) or some foreigner who cant defend their own land adequately. Not many would be my guess.
Given the plethora of widely available first hand accounts on the realities of the Western Front, I'm amazed that someone could come to any other conclusion other than they were mostly a bunch of scared young men who wanted to go home.
As for your soundbite, it is nonsense. The strong men of Afghanistan performed poorly on the battlefield vs decadent liberal Western soldiers and they sure as hell have not created good times for the people of Afghanistan.
As for your soundbite, it is nonsense. The strong men of Afghanistan performed poorly on the battlefield vs decadent liberal Western soldiers and they sure as hell have not created good times for the people of Afghanistan.
Original post by Gazpacho.
Given the plethora of widely available first hand accounts on the realities of the Western Front, I'm amazed that someone could come to any other conclusion other than they were mostly a bunch of scared young men who wanted to go home.
As for your soundbite, it is nonsense. The strong men of Afghanistan performed poorly on the battlefield vs decadent liberal Western soldiers and they sure as hell have not created good times for the people of Afghanistan.
As for your soundbite, it is nonsense. The strong men of Afghanistan performed poorly on the battlefield vs decadent liberal Western soldiers and they sure as hell have not created good times for the people of Afghanistan.
I think a better equivocation would be Iraq 2003 invasion.
Afghanistans use of protracted abstract warfare did result in them succeeding- pyrrhic victory? We will see.
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